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So this is all about the spring force, not the friction material, the wear, the throw out bearing feel or anything else.
I think they're all connected. My understanding is the diaphragm spring/clamp force isn't adequate, so you get a vague pedal engagement along with slippage under load. Materials heat up, wear, and then catastrophically fail.
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So this is all about the spring force, not the friction material, the wear, the throw out bearing feel or anything else.
The diaphragm spring is essentially what you feel with your foot, minus the pedal assist spring (and friction). One benefit of a twin disc is to hold high torque without a heavy diaphragm spring. In this case, since the Jeep doesn't make high torque, the spring is super light. We have also found a significant reduction in clamp load after use, likely due to the self-adjusting design of the pressure plate. This of course makes the pedal feel lighter and reduces torque capacity.
 

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Does anybody know how they fixed the clutch?
They didn't actually say they are going to fix the clutch. They only say they will replace the clutch and change the software. On a new vehicle, I would be interested to know if they are only changing the software.
 

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They didn't actually say they are going to fix the clutch. They only say they will replace the clutch and change the software. On a new vehicle, I would be interested to know if they are only changing the software.
That would be absolutely wild if all they do is roll out a different tune or sensor, but keep the same clutch and clutch related components lol

So, that's probably exactly what they're doing...
 

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That would be absolutely wild if all they do is roll out a different tune or sensor, but keep the same clutch and clutch related components lol

So, that's probably exactly what they're doing...
If that's what they do it would just be better to go aftermarket and not have neutering software installed. If its new in the sense that it's new in a box off the shelf and not new in the sense of design, a few thousand dollars is worth keeping my original engine output parameters to me. I just don't think they'll have any less problems with them unless they do something drastic in the tuning, and if that's what they're relying on, I want no part of it.
 

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OCD too, eh?
Yes you got me lol. I am at times. That’s how I can recognize it in others. lol. I actually kind of like the crooked 6 because it’s pretty funny. I do wonder how many truck have that this way though. Is it just one software version? How long did that one run for? Stuff like that. But it adds character. Sort of like the optional Mopar black sill protection plates my truck was optioned with that say “wrangler” instead of “gladiator”. It’s wrong but it’s funny.
Actually come to think about it, I may have never noticed either of these things if they weren’t pointed out to me. Someone showed me a post on r/jeep about the crooked 6. My wife pointed out the “wrangler” when I opened the door at the dealer. I probably could have lived in blissful ignorance and never noticed either.
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