Diesel cooling options and ideas

[Hondo1]

To summarize the last 12 pages : ).. It does not sound like a thermostat is going to fix this issue. 260+ oil temps and 245+ coolant temps is beyond where a thermostat would be fully open. Under low load the thermostat would lower the temps but while towing these engines are WAY past that at are 20-40 above fully open.

I agree an oil pump inline oil cooler would be great. Have someone cut a 1" block with all the o-ring groves to mate between the engine block and the factory housing. I attached a picture and you can see it would need some bypass ports. nothing too fancy. A few lines that come out to its own radiator and it would probably lower the coolant temps also. I have CAD and machine shop sources to do it but it would take more time than I can put into it. I'm not even sure if you spaces it off 1" there would be room.

I’m curious if we don’t already have access for an in-line oil cooler

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[rharr]

look at the insane diesel bypass oil filter setup for the EcoD.
https://insanediesel.com/products/ram-1500-ecodiesel-3-0l-bypass-oil-filter-kit
no reason to not use the same tap ports and add a 2nd cooler instead of a bypass filter.

 

[Pike1892]

Yep that would be up BulletProof or Mishimoto's ally. I have a guy here in the Bay Area that has the ability to scan housing parts like this and add ports where needed but not the time to tackle the job. Used them to make a custom cold side neck for a Miata motor that I was running a remote radiator on and using a -20 or -24 An fitting. A friend of mine with a machine shop cut me two housings. Those are the two things it would take to make it happen on the personal side along with finding a place to mount a cooler, having someone like Brice Thomas make a custom cooler, and then sourcing custom hoses.

Judging by this recent post in the other thread 260* is absolutely absurd.

I would totally purchase something like this! I am sure there would be several others also. Hopefully we can get something made. I bet we can find a place under the bed to tuck it up and out of the way, with a fan mounted to it.

 

[Hondo1]

I would totally purchase something like this! I am sure there would be several others also. Hopefully we can get something made. I bet we can find a place under the bed to tuck it up and out of the way, with a fan mounted to it.

Look at Derale coolers, they have multiple active cooler remote mount options.

 

[Hondo1]

I emailed Mishimoto this morning asking for them to consider developing a direct fit auxiliary oil cooler kit for the JT/JL Ecodiesel Jeeps. Please do like wise and we may show enough need out there for them to consider it.

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[jeepin48]

I emailed Mishimoto this morning asking for them to consider developing a direct fit auxiliary oil cooler kit for the JT/JL Ecodiesel Jeeps. Please do like wise and we may show enough need out there for them to consider it.

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Thanks!

I reached out to DeRale coolers and Insane Diesels this morning also.

 

[CreepyJeepy]

Somebody make this. I'll buy a remote oil cooler solution if it works. 100% count me in.

 

[Hondo1]

Somebody make this. I'll buy a remote oil cooler solution if it works. 100% count me in.

I think the best thing we can do at this point is to all reach out individually and show them that there is a need, this will help them build a business case.

 

[JCC]

Somebody make this. I'll buy a remote oil cooler solution if it works. 100% count me in.

Same. I emailed Mishimoto and as I mentioned in a previous thread somewhere I also emailed PTP about a turbo blanket and they said they'd consider if there is enough interest, so maybe flood them with requests too.

 

[CreepyJeepy]

Thanks!

I reached out to DeRale coolers and Insane Diesels this morning also.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...cV7ZJvwzCREQMKGZ4TXf8r1_56Cost0oaAhWbEALw_wcB

Something like that attached to ports described above with hoses wrapped in a heat resistant protective material then mounted to the bottom of the vehicle (unless you do a lot of water crossings :-P ) could be a good solution... Some smart engineer can solve this issue.

 

[Hondo1]

I have used Derale in the past for trans coolers, they put together a nice product.
For engine oil I would prefer to AN or JIC connections with a wire braid hydraulic type hose. Barbed fittings and straight rubber make me nervous, a trans will give you some warning when it’s not happy (low oil due to a leak) an engine is not so forgiving.

 

[Pike1892]

This is the reply that I received from PTP about a turbo blanket. "We don’t have any plans to offer a turbo blanket for this application as we’d need to get a visual inspection of the setup/access to the turbocharger and see how feasible it would be to install a turbo blanket. If you have any information you could share with us, we’d look into it further."


Anyone in the Austin, Texas area that wants to contact them so they can look at the engine?

PTP Turbo Blankets
808 McPhaul St
Austin, TX 78758, USA
Phone 512-490-6494
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[JCC]

I just received a similar response from PTP. They'd love to have someone in the area bring theirs by so they can take a look at the turbo config. Calling volunteers in the Austin area...

 

[Hondo1]

I’m not sure that a turbo blanket is the right answer. The turbo is water cooled, insulating the turbo would put more burden on the already marginal cooling system.

 

[CrazyCooter]

I’m not sure that a turbo blanket is the right answer. The turbo is water cooled, insulating the turbo would put more burden on the already marginal cooling system.

I was thinking the same thing......Holding all that heat in may superheat both the oil and water to make it worse.

I ran both manifold and turbo blankets with a wrapped downpipe on my 3500 Ram to help spool a slightly oversized turbo. That truck ran 125hp over stock and towed 10k over the rating....never a complaint from the stock cooling system.

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