Updated - Gladiator EcoDiesel Bottoming Out Poll 2 - Spring Part Numbers

[Rusty PW]

At the dealer today. The parts exist! Part numbers line up. We’ll see how much difference.

These are the same bump stops I have from the factory. When I asked the dealer about the TSB. They said that My vin wasn't included. So I must have gotten the updated parts during the build.

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[Free2roam]

These are the same bump stops I have from the factory. When I asked the dealer about the TSB. They said that My vin wasn't included. So I must have gotten the updated parts during the build.

Spare parts for sale? ?

 

[Rusty PW]

Spare parts for sale? ?

Have a set of stock JTRD front springs that I'm not using.

 

[Dougstdig]

My parts are in, can't get in until the 31st tho... :|

Holiday weekend. Make sure they’re open.

 

[PackMule]

I also had the "fix" done on Thursday. I agree the shocks are slightly stiffer. There is an improvement over the prior shocks and bump stops. Personally I felt the original shocks were very soft so this helps firm up the ride.
I also had placed the Clayton springs for the diesel about a month prior to this then put the factory springs back in before taking to the dealership. I have only had the factory springs and new updated shocks for a few days and have been working most of that time.
My next step is put the Clayton heaver springs with the updated shocks. In my humble opinion the heaver shocks will be better when I add the winch and front bumper.
I am planning a full write up with pictures and measurements from stock to Clayton springs, stock springs with fix then Clayton springs with the shock update.

Please let me know if this helps anyone or if you have any questions or ideas.

I think this is a pretty good approach. Get the newer TSB shocks, which I assume have much more damping. And then add the Clayton leveling springs.

I have the Clayton 2.5" springs, and Fox Performance Elite adjustable shocks, and will say that the springs are great, but the shocks need more damping. I took my rig to Moab on Fin's & Things and Hells Revenge... did well but had to dial my adjustable dampings all the way up.

If you don't want much of a lift, it might be the TSB shocks with more damping, and Clayton leveling springs could be a good approach.

 

[ajkaz]

I think this is a pretty good approach. Get the newer TSB shocks, which I assume have much more damping. And then add the Clayton leveling springs.

I have the Clayton 2.5" springs, and Fox Performance Elite adjustable shocks, and will say that the springs are great, but the shocks need more damping. I took my rig to Moab on Fin's & Things and Hells Revenge... did well but had to dial my adjustable dampings all the way up.

If you don't want much of a lift, it might be the TSB shocks with more damping, and Clayton leveling springs could be a good approach.

Good info, would the Clayton springs level a stock Rubicon? Would I need LCA’s? I have the TSB shocks, they came on my 22.

 

[PackMule]

Good info, would the Clayton springs level a stock Rubicon? Would I need LCA’s? I have the TSB shocks, they came on my 22.

You can talk directly to @Clayton Off Road on this, to get the latest, including planned availability. I'm pretty sure the target Clayton is shooting for with the prototypes that @Rusty PW is trialing out is to level the stock JTD, (e.g. 1-1.5") and prevent the bottoming issue, without a full lift. So LCAs would not really be necessary.

I'd consider the Claytons even with the "Fixed" '22, as it appears FCA didn't change the springs for '22, just TSB'd the shocks/bumps. Your '22 JTD probably does "O.K" on speedbumps as compared to a stock '21 JTD, but I'm betting it really doesn't perform like every other stock Wrangler/Gladiator should off road.

 

[Clayton Off Road]

You can talk directly to @Clayton Off Road on this, to get the latest, including planned availability. I'm pretty sure the target Clayton is shooting for with the prototypes that @Rusty PW is trialing out is to level the stock JTD, (e.g. 1-1.5") and prevent the bottoming issue, without a full lift. So LCAs would not really be necessary.

I'd consider the Claytons even with the "Fixed" '22, as it appears FCA didn't change the springs for '22, just TSB'd the shocks/bumps. Your '22 JTD probably does "O.K" on speedbumps as compared to a stock '21 JTD, but I'm betting it really doesn't perform like every other stock Wrangler/Gladiator should off road.

We finished testing these coils on a few vehicles, this solution works perfectly! Check out this post we put up on our website that talks about these springs a little bit, part number is also provided at the bottom. If anybody has any questions at all just let me know!

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/news/new-diesel-gladiator-coil-springs-and-suspension-systems

 

[Dougstdig]

Just received word the dealership has received 1 front shock. The other may be in today or over the next couple of days. Rear shocks are due in on 6-6-22 and the front jounce bumpers are due in on 5-24-22.

 

[Free2roam]

We finished testing these coils on a few vehicles, this solution works perfectly! Check out this post we put up on our website that talks about these springs a little bit, part number is also provided at the bottom. If anybody has any questions at all just let me know!

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/news/new-diesel-gladiator-coil-springs-and-suspension-systems

Question is....is this for lifted or stock Rubicon's only? I have a stock Sport S Ecodiesel looking to not have it bottom out anymore. @Clayton Off Road

 

[Clayton Off Road]

Question is....is this for lifted or stock Rubicon's only? I have a stock Sport S Ecodiesel looking to not have it bottom out anymore. @Clayton Off Road

This would be best for any non-lifted, Rubicon or non-rubicon JT. The springs aren't going to really be adding height, if they do it's only a small amount due to the higher spring rate, but their primary function is firming up the front end. Overall height comes out pretty close to factory.

 

[Free2roam]

This would be best for any non-lifted, Rubicon or non-rubicon JT. The springs aren't going to really be adding height, if they do it's only a small amount due to the higher spring rate, but their primary function is firming up the front end. Overall height comes out pretty close to factory.

So if I got the springs. It would add approximately how much height in front? Part number? Again this is a pretty much bone stock Sport S Ecodiesel. Except for Rubicon take off tires. All there is is the 2.5 or 3.5 so that will actually lift the front end over stock correct?

 

[Clayton Off Road]

So if I got the springs. It would add approximately how much height in front? Part number? Again this is a pretty much bone stock Sport S Ecodiesel. Except for Rubicon take off tires. All there is is the 2.5 or 3.5 so that will actually lift the front end over stock correct?

Approximately .5" if anything. I'll include a link to the part below. Our 2.5" or 3.5" coils would be too much lift for the front, so I wouldn't recommend using those without going with the full kit.

We do also have a 1.5" leveling kit that will level out the front end, and solve the issue with the firmer springs which I'll link below as well. Let me know if you have any questions.

.5" Springs
https://www.claytonoffroad.com/prod...-jeep-gladiator-jt-05-lift-front-coil-springs

Leveling Kit
https://www.claytonoffroad.com/product/jeep-gladiator-15-leveling-kit-2020-jt

 

[EddyArnold]

We finished testing these coils on a few vehicles, this solution works perfectly! Check out this post we put up on our website that talks about these springs a little bit, part number is also provided at the bottom. If anybody has any questions at all just let me know!

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/news/new-diesel-gladiator-coil-springs-and-suspension-systems

Ordered!

I wonder if my dealership will drop these in while they are doing the TSB... ?‍

 

[DeOhYouGe]

My TSB update, all parts were in and dropped the truck off this a.m. for install +new windshield (warranty). Got a call after lunch that in addition to the TSB shocks and rubberbabybuggybumpers, new front springs are on the way as an additional TSB or addendum to this TSB. Either way, it would appear that someone at Jeep is waking up to the fact that there is more to the issue than just dampening and more bumpstop in the equation. As soon as I get p/n on the springs I'll post. (I did however have a spring p/n combination unlike all others submitted back when the polling was hot and heavy so perhaps this was noticed and... who knows)

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