When the 540HP Hurricane arrives,,,,,,

[JTGuy]

My '22 is really well modded now, but when the 540HP Hurricane I6 hits it's a done deal. I figure maybe 2 more years. Anyone going to join me ?

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[smlobx]

We can all dream ?

 

[redriderjf87]

If it's reliable and halfway serviceable. And available with a properly designed manual. Heck yeah that would be a hoot

540 hp isn't worth being dependent on Joe Servicemanager.

 

[Oilburner]

 

[RubiNewbCB]

Crate engine option with a 10speed would be optimal. Do Dana 60/80 Swap in the years prior to the release of the H.O.-I6.

 

[Zissou]

My '22 is really well modded now, but when the 540HP Hurricane I6 hits it's a done deal. I figure maybe 2 more years. Anyone going to join me ?

I'm here to watch the engine swap into your 2022.

But if you think Jeep is going to make this generation of Gladiator with a hurricane... I would not get your hopes up.
The Gladiator doesn't have the sales volume to warrant making a special high output variant. Couldn't even get a 392 in it; and Jeep already puts that in the Wrangler so it would not have been difficult. It'll be a business decision more than a technical barrier.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Is this the new hopium the 392 people are huffing?

 

[Beungood]

im bypassing Jeep until This motor comes. I don't like any of the offerings currently available.

 

[Redleg37]

My guess is a new generation wrangler (and hopefully gladiator) in late 2028 for the 2029 model year will have the LO hurricane as the standard engine; with an expensive upgrade for the HO version available on special models similar to how the 392 is now.

 

[Reddog]

Having had a JK with 430HP LS3 crate engine and 6L80 trans, I can offer a little experience on big HP in JK's, JL's, and JT's I hope. First, if rock crawling is your main use of the Jeep, the HP is a waste of time. You don't need big HP to rock crawl and all it does is get you broken quicker. If you overland, the added HP may be of some value but in overlanding fuel economy is a bonus and important. If most of your driving is on highways and around town, the added HP can be a kick in the pants, but expect to put a lot of money into upgrading the drivelines, axles, etc to handle the HP. When I converted my 2008 JK, I found that the LS3 got significantly better gas mileage than the old V-6 so that was a plus. On the highway with 4:88 gears, I got as high as 24 mpg with it but it was typically around 21-22 mpg on highway. Around town, if you drove at city speeds, it was reasonable but put your foot in it and lots of stops at the gas stations. Obviously, it needed premium fuel as well so there's that too. I have said many times, given the highway and off-roading I did, I I would never go back to a V-6. Now I have a JTR and I find for all around driving the gas V-6 is okay with the 8spd transmission. Down the road, once there is a quality conversion kit available, I may go to the LT1 engine I have sitting in its crate. The one thing I will say about the 2023 JT I have is that it's quirky from an electronics perspective. Judging from many comments on this forum, I am not alone in that regard. Personally, I have never liked Hemi based engines in Jeeps because of weight, access and HP output to weight ratio. The LS and LT GM engines are perfect for the platform in my opinion and experience with them. If RPM Extreme puts out a conversion kit I will be the first in line for one because I had such a great experience with the JK version. Not one single bad experience from it in well over 100,000 miles of use and counting as my son is still driving it daily. Sorry for the rambling and getting off subject here but as some of pointed out, I do not believe there will ever be a high hp JT come from the factory. Present sales, sticker price, and the direction of government regs will never allow it. Remember: the best Jeep conversions ever produced came from DIY'ers. If you want a big-block Hemi in your JT, just do it. Everyone will benefit from your experience and I mean that in a good way. Others will follow.

 

[Almost]

My guess is a new generation wrangler (and hopefully gladiator) in late 2028 for the 2029 model year will have the LO hurricane as the standard engine; with an expensive upgrade for the HO version available on special models similar to how the 392 is now.

I agree with you, but a little less optimistic on the power front. I think they give us an extra low output power version like they when they knee capped the 5.7 Hemi in the Grand Cherokee to 360 HP vs 390 in every other vehicle. I don't think the Gladiator will ever get any special models unless Gladiator sales get significantly higher. We were lucky to get the Ecodiesel when we had it.

 

[smlobx]

…. I don't think the Gladiator will ever get any special models unless Gladiator sales get significantly higher.…

It’s the old which came first, the chicken or the egg scenario. Jeep may not see the sales in the current state but not realizing that giving its audience what they want will result in more sales.. If I were King for a day!

 

[BourbonRunner]

Is this the new hopium the 392 people are huffing?

100% is, and I'm part of that group. The hopium tastes like cinnamon.

Thing is, the Hurricane in the standard length Wagoneer, which has all the same brick-like aerodynamic qualities as the JT... and still manages to get officially 20MPG combined (17 city/24 hwy respectively) vs the JTR's combined official 19mpg, 16 city/23 highway). But what's more important is the Wagoneer weighs around half a ton MORE.

Maybe I'm too rational but I would think that with the 1000lb difference MPG invariably would get better. And as a result Jeep/Stellysler would be clamoring to get the more efficient Hurricane into the Wrangler and Gladiator if only to boost CAFE numbers.

But maybe they know something we dont?

 

[bleda2002]

I agree with you, but a little less optimistic on the power front. I think they give us an extra low output power version like they when they knee capped the 5.7 Hemi in the Grand Cherokee to 360 HP vs 390 in every other vehicle. I don't think the Gladiator will ever get any special models unless Gladiator sales get significantly higher. We were lucky to get the Ecodiesel when we had it.

I mean we do have a special model, the Mojave, unfortunately it just didnt come with a power boost.

Personally I still think we'll see the 4xe for 2025 as announced, then 2029 the JT2 or whatever it will be called and that will be the newer power trains. The hurricane engine production capacity isnt that great and its going to be in all the other stuff first like the new charger/challenger, ram trucks, etc.

100% is, and I'm part of that group. The hopium tastes like cinnamon.

Thing is, the Hurricane in the standard length Wagoneer, which has all the same brick-like aerodynamic qualities as the JT... and still manages to get officially 20MPG combined (17 city/24 hwy respectively) vs the JTR's combined official 19mpg, 16 city/23 highway). But what's more important is the Wagoneer weighs around half a ton MORE.

Maybe I'm too rational but I would think that with the 1000lb difference MPG invariably would get better. And as a result Jeep/Stellysler would be clamoring to get the more efficient Hurricane into the Wrangler and Gladiator if only to boost CAFE numbers.

But maybe they know something we dont?

The wagoneers aero is waaaay better than the gladiator. Its lower, more streamlined, active aero underneath, tucked wheels filling wheel wells. Its bigger, but the aero advantage is huge, and the extra 1000 lbs hurts fuel economy but by small %'s compared to aero. The only place the extra weight really hurts is uphill but the EPA isnt doing a ton of steep hills.

 

[BourbonRunner]

I mean we do have a special model, the Mojave, unfortunately it just didnt come with a power boost.

If anything, that's what the Mojave was missing to really compete with the GM twins and the Ranger Raptor-- power. It handles so much better than any other trim of JT, especially the Rubicon. It just baffles me that it doesn't sell better than the Rubicon, I suppose most people don't test drive them back to back but I digress.

Personally I still think we'll see the 4xe for 2025 as announced, then 2029 the JT2 or whatever it will be called and that will be the newer power trains. The hurricane engine production capacity isnt that great and it's going to be in all the other stuff first like the new charger/challenger, ram trucks, etc.

I get where you're going with this but I don't think the Hurricane's production capacity is the limiting factor, rather I think Jeep is saving R&D money on trucks that will sell regardless of the power plant. Through ownership and management changes one thing has always been consistent at ChrsCo: Penny pinching.

The wagoneers aero is waaaay better than the gladiator. Its lower, more streamlined, active aero underneath, tucked wheels filling wheel wells. Its bigger, but the aero advantage is huge, and the extra 1000 lbs hurts fuel economy but by small %'s compared to aero. The only place the extra weight really hurts is uphill but the EPA isnt doing a ton of steep hills.

Makes sense, and I'll take your word for it on the aero, but don't discount the actual mass the engine has to move in the first place. Half a ton is a lot of weight.

That in mind, it is the most aerodynamic cinderblock on the road.

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