Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware ( no politics please)

[RudeJeepin]

Jeep's intermediate step - the 4xe ->
And to fuel it up ->

$1.18 per charge, which takes 2 hours and 12 minutes most of the time.
It's still a Jeep, still very capable, if not more-so due to the crazy torque.

I love you combo of vehicle colors, they go well together.

Question for you though, how long do you think it would take to charge off of a regular 120v outlet? Just curious.
Also, if you don't mind, how expensive is one of those chargers?

The thought of trading my wife's JLU in on a 4xe has crossed my mind more than once. Her work is a couple miles one way. But she takes it to her mom's and sister's once in awhile and they both live 2.5 hours away.

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[mrmo]

This is bullshite, yall need to stand up to these communist ass wipes that are thinking they control you.

 

[bleda2002]

I love you combo of vehicle colors, they go well together.

Question for you though, how long do you think it would take to charge off of a regular 120v outlet? Just curious.
Also, if you don't mind, how expensive is one of those chargers?

The thought of trading my wife's JLU in on a 4xe has crossed my mind more than once. Her work is a couple miles one way. But she takes it to her mom's and sister's once in awhile and they both live 2.5 hours away.

120v takes about 10-12 hours if i remember right for ours. A level 2 charger is about 2-300 dollars (maybe more now due to inflation) and you can either get a new circuit put in (we did 2 50 amp nema 14-50s) or you can use an appliance plug such as the one from your washer or dryer depending on where its at.

All in we spent 450 with the charger, materials, and electricians time (i know the guy and it was a pretty short run so he only charged me 100 bucks + materials for the install work).

 

[Digster]

Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware

Exclusive: Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware (delawarebusinesstimes.com)

"" CEO of Lakeshore Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM of Seaford and managing partner of Willis Ford in Smyrna, said he received notification last week from the brand’s parent company, Stellantis, that he could not receive regular shipments of two popular Jeep gasoline-powered models to stock on his lot “because we are considered a ‘California state.’”

“People will still be able to direct order these gas-powered models, but that could take weeks before they are delivered,” Viswanathan noted.

The prohibited gas-powered Jeeps cited in the notification are the Wrangler four-door Sport, Sahara and Rubicon and the Wrangler two-door Sport and Rubicon. According to the letter, the Jeep Wrangler 4XE and the Jeep Grand Cherokee 4XE, both electric models, will be available to keep in stock in the First State"".

"" Delaware is not alone in this new stocking prohibition for gas vehicles, as California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Washington, Oregon, New Jersey, Maryland, and Colorado are also included due to their adoption of the ZEV standards."".

I can only imagine the EV incentives they crammed into the pork filled ”Inflation Reduction Act” - forcing people to go green whether it makes any sense or not - that’s the new religion.

 

[Gvsukids]

Well, if she drives it too much short distances and in E, then eventually the 4xe auto insists on the engine firing and won't allow E driving until the temperatures have been sustained for a certain time period. If then still short trips are all it gets this does not stop.

Edit: I see you already experienced that and wrote about it. My bad.

You can delete your own post.

 

[@californiajeeping]

In California our electricity prices are skyrocketing. An ev does me no good. The added costs won’t pay off ever.

 

[shokker70]

I'm not sure how much you know about current affairs, but the richest man in the world's name is Elon Musk and he owns an electric car company called Tesla. Mr Musk also owns a social media company called Twitter. Yesterday, on Twitter, Mr Musk helped Ronald DeSantis launch his bid to be the Republican presidential nominee for 2024. Given those facts, I don't think the next administration will be less friendly to electric cars, probably more so.

There a difference in being friendly towards something, and cramming it down our throats. I think Tesla has only recently started turning a profit. How much did mandates play a role in that?

If you like EVs, buy one. Don't force my tax dollars to pay for it, or charging stations. Let the market drive things. Not government.

Where do we think the electricity to charge all these EVs is going to come from? Wind and solar ain't gonna cut it. Coal, natural gas... nuclear is the cleanest. Those aren't going anywhere any time soon.

As has been mentioned in multiple posts here previously, CA can't keep the power on now. What happens when EVs make up 15 or even 20% of the market?

 

[Caraholic]

Yes, the non-Tesla EV charging system is horrible. If you can find one, there's a decent chance it won't be working. There's plenty of coverage about it online, but obviously no one selling EV's wants to talk about it. I've seen it once in person: in front of an Embassy Suites, the Tesla charger was fully operational and the generic one was not.



1. How do you define "woke?"
2. Can you name one company that has "gone woke" and "gone broke?"

This is funny but I’ve heard;
Defining woke is a lot like standing in the middle of someone’s fart. You can’t see it, touch it, yet you know it’s there because it stinks lol…..
I thought that was funny. For what it’s worth lol

 

[Caraholic]

In California our electricity prices are skyrocketing. An ev does me no good. The added costs won’t pay off ever.

Even crazier PGE Edison and yet one other company has legitimately proposed charging and billing for electricity based on income scale……
Now you know what folks in CA are just hearing about. How will this affect the EV industry? Who knows- I guess we will see???

 

[Caraholic]

You say no politics but it is all politically driven agenda.

This state the last 2-3 years really has gotten into my personal business and now this crap comes along.

2035 will be about in the range I am looking to retire and it probably will not be here in Delaware.

They better get to hopping then on recharge stations as they suck currently on the amount they have now unless you own a Tesla.

True driven by politics; hopefully we can keep the discussion considerate and productive!

 

[Mflowers11]

Jeep to stop stocking popular gas models in Delaware

You can’t post this and say, no politics. The action itself is the result of a political agenda, democrat controlled states enacting environmental laws & regulations.

There is literally nothing to this post that is not political! What else is there to talk about here? Maybe I’ll start a thread talking about how much prettier Delaware will be with more blue tow hooks!?!

That said, I did not talk about politics, merely the rational of not talking about politics when purely political.

Lmao.

 

[Bazz McLean]

Yes, the non-Tesla EV charging system is horrible. If you can find one, there's a decent chance it won't be working. There's plenty of coverage about it online, but obviously no one selling EV's wants to talk about it. I've seen it once in person: in front of an Embassy Suites, the Tesla charger was fully operational and the generic one was not.



1. How do you define "woke?"
2. Can you name one company that has "gone woke" and "gone broke?"

Anheuser-Busch stocks have dropped 15.7 BILLION. That is a serious blow to the company and shareholders. Broke is a metaphor for losing a shit load of money.

 

[PlayfulBird]

You can delete your own post.

Very cool. After you mentioned it I found the option too. Most Forums I am on lock editing after 20 or so minutes and forbid deletion of posts.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I love you combo of vehicle colors, they go well together.

Question for you though, how long do you think it would take to charge off of a regular 120v outlet? Just curious.
Also, if you don't mind, how expensive is one of those chargers?

The thought of trading my wife's JLU in on a 4xe has crossed my mind more than once. Her work is a couple miles one way. But she takes it to her mom's and sister's once in awhile and they both live 2.5 hours away.

The 4xe Jeeps come with a 115v charger and a storage case for it. It took ~12 hours, maybe a tad longer when we used the supplied charger. You want a dedicated 20 amp circuit if at all possible. And NO extension cord, not a problem because that cord is long on the supplied unit. It senses high temperatures at the outlet through the plug end is one reason to not use an extension cord - plus the draw is high, of course.

$400 for the Level II charger. I did a lot of checking and a couple of guys very well-versed on the 4xe said these chargers are very nice, highly rated, and the price is great.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ZNN3JB7

You can either plug it into a correct outlet, or use it hard wired (which I did)
Plugged in there's more than enough capacity for a 4xe - 40 amps. Hard wired it can supply up to 50 amps as I recall. I did the hard wire because I figured that way it was already sort of "future proof". The software that comes with it is great. It shows the draw, and if you know your kWh rate where you live, you can plug that in and it will tell you how much it costs to charge. The Jeep 4xe has the ability to schedule charging through the interface on the radio screen, but the charger can also schedule.
If you ever get a full EV that charger can be cranked up to the 50 amp limit, I have it set at 40 and the 4xe takes 32 - but the Jeep throttles things back.
I have to admit - the 4xe is a really smart vehicle in those ways. They really thought it through pretty well for their first swim in that lake.

Because of the fact that voltage has to be stepped up to charge the high voltage batteries in these, it's said that the Level II charger (220v) is about 5% more efficient at charging as far as cost and energy use. Not a big deal but in places where electricity is expensive, it may matter.
So it's a bit more efficient, and it's faster - 2 hours and 12 minutes vs. a bit over 12 for the 110v
I put the supplied 110v charger in the case and in the storage compartment made for it in the back of the Wrangler so it's always with the Jeep in case we go someplace and stay over night where it could be plugged in. Who knows - not likely, but it's also safe back there.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Most Forums I am on lock editing after 20 or so minutes and forbid deletion of posts.

I'm sure that's only for you. Anyone else can edit or delete.



Just kidding!!

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