AEV Releases JT 2.5 DualSport RT Suspension System

[RodRecket]

Well, I’m going in. Ordered last night from Northridge to save on the shipping, though it drop ships from AEV and that can take a few weeks. Will post here with updates on install and impressions.

I'm likely to go this route too. Please post up your impressions when after it's installed.

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[ttn333]

Elsewhere it was said that AEV will be offering the kid basic with 5100's and the 8100 remotes will be an option....but all TBD. they got crushed with lock downs and sorting out some new materials, in addition to getting some more factory deals to work.

The wait for AEV stuff is painful, but its usually worth it for people who want factory+ performance. The majority of lift companies churning out crap for jeeps dont even know what spring frequency tuning is, fewer know how to do it, and fewer still actually do it. Most of the stuff for jeeps is "bruh lifts". "yeah bruh. add X% to the spring rate, jack the thing up 2.5-6", and add some flashy control arms. Totally bruh. And those nice looking shocks too". The majority are junk, the majority don't have the ability to actually develop the right valving, etc. They get away with it because the vast majority of drivers dont know what right feels like either. So if its got big tires, lots of lines running around the shocks, and some cool anodized colors/adjusters, it'll get bought. And you see the result. Sagging rear ends, jeeps bouncing up and down as they roll down the road, pitching forward and back unnecessarily over bumps, visible alignment issues under hard braking, etc etc. Measuring and making a bracket/spacer/bar/shock/spring to FIT is NOT the same thing as engineering it to WORK.

AEV makes their money with the ability to actually frequency tune suspension, stamp steel geometry brackets, have bilstein develop application specific valving for the application, and then conduct DOT/NHTSA testing on the results. Im not personally aware of any other company that does that. Id personally rather have a 2.5" suspension on 35-37" tires with 2" standard shocks that are valved right than a 4" bruh lift with remote reservoirs on 37-40" tires that drives like shit. You still want the vehicle you cart your kids around in to be able to emergency brake. Emergency lane change under load. Commute to work. etc.

They take a long time to bring things to market. They can be a pain in the ass to deal with as a customer. But they make really, really good shit.

From that to this.

can you elaborate on why the ranchos were stronger, how they were made, and what they were made out of?

The irony.

 

[KurtP]

From that to this.



The irony.

the point of the question was to reveal the fact that an assertion was being made based on zero testing to know whether or not the ascertain was true. But yes, it is ironic, just not for the reasons you think it Is.

 

[LAJEEPR]

I don’t have anything negative to say about Rancho, in fact I’ve only heard good things about their shocks.

To say AEV is just overpriced and dismiss the quality, well right now no one has given feedback on the 2.5 lift for the JT but for the JK and JL, I know many owners with that installed that have their Jeep’s off road several times a month and have ran AEV for years without issues. Most of these users are “overlanding” their vehicles, running a lot of weight with RTTs or Ursa Minors. One of the best examples of this is Chris Shontz, Venture4wd on YouTube, who lives out of his Jeep year round and has ran with an AEV lift for at least 3 years, on trails every week. I can’t recall him ever reporting an issue with his suspension. The suspension is durable and uncomplicated. I know owners with other brands that have seen wear issues in the same amount of time. You can find more adjustability or height with something by Clayton or Icon, that is their advantage, but you pay more. AEV is simple, solid and proven.

 

[ttn333]

the point of the question was to reveal the fact that an assertion was being made based on zero testing to know whether or not the ascertain was true. But yes, it is ironic, just not for the reasons you think it Is.

I get what your question was about. It's just ironic because your original statement was a sweeping generalization of a lot of systems out there. The fact is, there's a whole lot of good systems out there, especially the ones that are mentioned on this forum. I'm sure you know, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Although some will cost more than others.

 

[KurtP]

There are good ones out there, an AEV isnt the only one. Theyre just the most tested.

there are also a sufficient number of the other systems that my sweeping hyperbolic generalization remains accurate.

 

[darkhorse13]

Well, I’m going in. Ordered last night from Northridge to save on the shipping, though it drop ships from AEV and that can take a few weeks. Will post here with updates on install and impressions.

Definitely let us know your thoughts. I am so disappointed with AEV that they will not be transparent about their spring rate or even just the free length of the rear springs. Please post the free length when you get them if you can

 

[LAJEEPR]

Definitely let us know your thoughts. I am so disappointed with AEV that they will not be transparent about their spring rate or even just the free length of the rear springs. Please post the free length when you get them if you can

The only time I’ve seen manufacturers post their spring rates is for linear springs. I’m not aware of any manufacturer of dual or triple (progressive) rated posting this. Possibly proprietary? For the JK, AEV does promote additional weight capacity which was generally linear to taller springs. For now they just have the 2.5” kit, so no options there. I also wonder if the weight characteristics of the truck impact this. Heavy duty 4.5” springs and an empty bed, the back end would be squirrelly, I’d think. But if you need heavy duty springs, Teraflex or OME all day (if/when they have a JT kit).

 

[darkhorse13]

The only time I’ve seen manufacturers post their spring rates is for linear springs. I’m not aware of any manufacturer of dual or triple (progressive) rated posting this. Possibly proprietary? For the JK, AEV does promote additional weight capacity which was generally linear to taller springs. For now they just have the 2.5” kit, so no options there. I also wonder if the weight characteristics of the truck impact this. Heavy duty 4.5” springs and an empty bed, the back end would be squirrelly, I’d think. But if you need heavy duty springs, Teraflex or OME all day (if/when they have a JT kit).

There are a handful of mfg that do post triple and quadruple spring rate figures with the exception of a few. (see my screen shot below and my thread here) I personally think the secretive nature of spring rate is silly and not to release just the spring's free length (which a consumer can measure and post upon purchase) is just rude and unhelpful from a customer service stand point.

Again, if a mfg wants to keep the use of specific materials, winding process or something else (i.e. frequency tuning) that sets it apart from a competitor proprietary, then I get it. But actual spring rate IMO is not proprietary, it's simply a standard measurement of a spring and helps dictate a consumer's decision to purchase. Leaving the Toyota community, I can tell you that transparency with spring rate is fantastic and a big reason why it's so easy to dial in a FJ / Tacoma / 4R etc for a specific off-road purpose. Just trying to find that type of support with the Gladiator and it's perplexing why it doesn't quite exist given the overwhelming number of choices for lift kits. Hopefully that changes as this Jeep truck platform has been so great!

To wrap up this soapbox, kudos to Clayton and Rock Krawler for being the most willing to help... thus getting my dollars. If AEV wouldn't have been almost a year late to the game they would have been a top contender. Now that they have released AND won't elaborate on their product beyond the official website description is disheartening. Thanks @LAJEEPR for being the guinea pig on this one!

 

[catronro]

Just completed the install...review here

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...rt-rt-suspension-system-install-review.36531/

 

[1DanLee1]

I installed this system & have been blown away with how good it rides.

I picked up my Gladiator on Wednesday Night,Saturday night I already had it on jack stands & was installing the lift. I only put on about 60 miles before install & about 250 after.

The ride improved dramatically. It was a bit soft originally & everything I read about diving on braking & wandering.

i will be putting on a set of 37’s Monday with 18x9 wheels, so it may lose some of the great handling characteristics, but I really like how it looks, feels & drives on the stock wheels & tires.

Installation instructions were great, the kit went on easy & nothing was a surprise. Very impressed with it.

 

[RodRecket]

I installed this system & have been blown away with how good it rides.

I picked up my Gladiator on Wednesday Night,Saturday night I already had it on jack stands & was installing the lift. I only put on about 60 miles before install & about 250 after.

The ride improved dramatically. It was a bit soft originally & everything I read about diving on braking & wandering.

i will be putting on a set of 37’s Monday with 18x9 wheels, so it may lose some of the great handling characteristics, but I really like how it looks, feels & drives on the stock wheels & tires.

Installation instructions were great, the kit went on easy & nothing was a surprise. Very impressed with it.

Knew this picture looked familiar. Good talking Jeeps with you today even if it was freezing. Let me know if you still have a connection on the AEV lift, I'm sold on it.

 

[Drewellis93]

I installed this system & have been blown away with how good it rides.

I picked up my Gladiator on Wednesday Night,Saturday night I already had it on jack stands & was installing the lift. I only put on about 60 miles before install & about 250 after.

The ride improved dramatically. It was a bit soft originally & everything I read about diving on braking & wandering.

i will be putting on a set of 37’s Monday with 18x9 wheels, so it may lose some of the great handling characteristics, but I really like how it looks, feels & drives on the stock wheels & tires.

Installation instructions were great, the kit went on easy & nothing was a surprise. Very impressed with it.

Are those 33's or 35's? I am ready to pull the trigger on this lift, but don't want to go from 35's to 37's. Am I going to look like an idiot (well, that may be a forgone conclusion, but what will the Jeep look like) rolling around on this lift with 35's?

 

[Mac]

What model JT? I don’t think it would look bad with 35s no matter what model it is with a lift.

 

[Drewellis93]

What model JT? I don’t think it would look bad with 35s no matter what model it is with a lift.

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