Diesel cooling options and ideas

[GladiatorPilot23]

https://news.csfrace.com/new-csf-je...477486224&mc_cid=00bd03b3d9&mc_eid=410be587f0


may be the answer..who's gona be the first to try..

Looks good. I would get one. Says 2 row and Mishimoto is a bigger 1 row. Mishimotor says life time warranty and made for chassis flex. Anyone here use that one for a few years yet?

CSF is a good company. Mishimoto does have a transcooler as well? Don't know if others make one?

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[GladiatorPilot23]

We found this to be true on the 2014 - 2019 Ram and Jeep EcoDiesel. Here's what GDE said:

"This thermostat is an OE Genuine Behr product, it starts opening at 88°C (190°F) and is fully open at 98°C (208°F). This will drop warm operating temps for coolant and engine oil about 10°C (18°F). This is also beneficial for towing long grades as full cooling is reached at lower temps, so it takes longer to reach overheat protection in extreme environments (i.e. 100°F towing large loads up a 6% grade) like Davis Dam in Arizona.

This product is only emissions compliant when used together with the GDE emission compliant tuning. It will only be sold to customers with Gen2 EcoDiesels (2014-2018 Grand Cherokee, 2014-2019 Ram 1500) already running this calibration set. Included is the new thermostat+housing assembly and the o-ring."

The problem is some loss of efficiency and oil impurities that burn off more with the OEM temps.

Is the transoil every looping with the coolent at all for faster warmup?

 

[RubiNewbCB]

It would be around $550.00 if seven can commit.

This would be the skid plate housing fully welded and assembled, sandblasted, and powder coated in lightly textured black.

You would need to byo cooler core, hoses, hardware, etc.

How many have committed so far? I'll commit and provide a deposit, if needed. Just needs the parts list for all the BYO stuff.

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

It would be around $550.00 if seven can commit.

This would be the skid plate housing fully welded and assembled, sandblasted, and powder coated in lightly textured black.

You would need to byo cooler core, hoses, hardware, etc.

I really need to do something to address my cooling issues, but my biggest hangup with this setup is how strong is the skid plate housing going to be? Since this puts the cooler in one of the most vulnerable possible locations, any impact with a trail obstacle will leave the vehicle completely incapacitated as it "bleeds out" all its oil. This could be a real safety concern for those of us who go far into the backcountry.

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

180 degree thermostat really helps. I was towing through the hills of Kentucky and southern Indiana this weekend and only watched oil temps spike. Cooling temps stayed near 220 and never moved. Oil temp would hit 250 on top of the hills.

oil cooler is next

Does this throw a check engine light code on Jeeps with OEM engine tunes?

 

[Chance575]

Don’t know , but works fine on the canadian tune

 

[Chance575]

looks sub standard but another brand

https://www.alloyworksplus.com/prod...4uLwlxXkFjVyR0Jzrs_aem_VZvezLw8rEjuFj8FD4GVWQ

 

[CrazyCooter]

looks sub standard but another brand

https://www.alloyworksplus.com/prod...4uLwlxXkFjVyR0Jzrs_aem_VZvezLw8rEjuFj8FD4GVWQ

That's guaranteed to make things worse? No way that fan moves as much air as the OE fan with a Chinese 30A relay and some 12ga wire?!

 

[caryt]

2100 cfm won't get it done ..

 

[@californiajeeping]

I have a CSF radiator on the way! I have the 88c thermostat on order; and CSF is making a trans cooler they are sending me that has 50% more fluid capacity. They essentially add a second cooler in front and make it all one piece.

Unfortunately by the time its installed it will be winter.

I still cannot understand how with a factory oil cooler the coolant temps being cooler would not reduce oil temps. People keep saying its not a cooling issue its an oil temp issue. My oil temp only goes up to 245-248 when coolant is over 220. Turning on the cooldown on the tazer and coming off a hill/grade it drops immediately.

I am hoping to go from 228 regular coolant temp on grades in 90 degree down to 200.

 

[rharr]

I have a CSF radiator on the way! I have the 88c thermostat on order; and CSF is making a trans cooler they are sending me that has 50% more fluid capacity. They essentially add a second cooler in front and make it all one piece.

Unfortunately by the time its installed it will be winter.

I still cannot understand how with a factory oil cooler the coolant temps being cooler would not reduce oil temps. People keep saying its not a cooling issue its an oil temp issue. My oil temp only goes up to 245-248 when coolant is over 220. Turning on the cooldown on the tazer and coming off a hill/grade it drops immediately.

I am hoping to go from 228 regular coolant temp on grades in 90 degree down to 200.

My thought is the oil heat exchanger was designed to heat oil on cold mornings as a primary function, the cooling function is secondary, and it doesn't have the capacity/surface area to keep up with cooling hot oil.

SO the work around seems to be to pump in cooler coolant into the heat exchanger through a aux cooler which basically adds a little more capacity to the exchanger.

From what I read, the early ecod units 21 and 22? the exchanger came with a thermostat. the later production units the thermostat in the exchanger was removed. At least that is what I read somewhere on here.

The best outcome would be to find a replacement exchanger that has more capacity and swap that in, but someone with more time than me needs to take the first bite.

I am shocked to see you need more trans cooling, mine hardly ever goes past 210.

 

[Jteakus]

You really can't cool trans fluid too much. Well, within reason.

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

My thought is the oil heat exchanger was designed to heat oil on cold mornings as a primary function, the cooling function is secondary, and it doesn't have the capacity/surface area to keep up with cooling hot oil.

SO the work around seems to be to pump in cooler coolant into the heat exchanger through a aux cooler which basically adds a little more capacity to the exchanger.

From what I read, the early ecod units 21 and 22? the exchanger came with a thermostat. the later production units the thermostat in the exchanger was removed. At least that is what I read somewhere on here.

The best outcome would be to find a replacement exchanger that has more capacity and swap that in, but someone with more time than me needs to take the first bite.

I am shocked to see you need more trans cooling, mine hardly ever goes past 210.

I've never had a single issue with my trans temp. The engine temp will rise and fall a bit, but it never gets hot enough to be a problem. My problem is the dang oil temp. I need to find an oil cooling solution that will allow me to tow up hills in the summer, or else I'm going to have to replace my Gladiator with a truck that CAN tow.

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

Mounts to the frame tusks beneath the front bumper (see picture).

The large unit is sold, another person has expressed interest in the remaining smaller unit but hasn’t finalized the purchase yet…

Small unit is $450 with a new core, 5/8 hose, and clamps.

Instead of mounting a cooler underneath the bumper in such a vulnerable location, has anyone looked into the possibility of fitment of a cooler behind the grille and ahead of the OEM coolers? There appears to be room enough for a narrow auxiliary oil cooler there where it won't get smashed on rocks.

 

[22EcoDs]

Instead of mounting a cooler underneath the bumper in such a vulnerable location, has anyone looked into the possibility of fitment of a cooler behind the grille and ahead of the OEM coolers? There appears to be room enough for a narrow auxiliary oil cooler there where it won't get smashed on rocks.

I think it was discussed and tossed due to the already limited airflow there from the intercooler, trans, radiator, and ac coil. Adding anything in front of that already over used stack would result in issues down stream.

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