Jeep cancels all 4xe Hybrid models!

[TheDerb]

I think this is a little bit of a bummer.

The people who go out and off road Jeeps are a small percentage of owners... and the ones who don't still spend money on modifications and continue to support the Wrangler and Gladiator aftermarket efforts and factory sales numbers. This drives demand to not only keep the Wrangler and Gladiator around, but it also helps the folks who offroad continue to receive innovative updates to their offroad experiences.

The PHEV was a hot seller for a reason- Some people like the idea of owning a Jeep that they put a few thousands miles a year on (or daily drive) with the option to only have to fill the gas tank a fraction of the times they would have to fill it if it were internal combustion only.

They are more than likely never going to do a full EV Wrangler, so I think this is a pretty big blow to a lot of potential owners.

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[berb]

Have you watched the videos of the 4xe in action on the trail?'
Electric or hybrid is ideal for that use. Full torque and power from the time your foot rests on the pedal. They literally walk over things with ease.

I think the best idea was the Ramcharger concept.
An electric vehicle with an onboard gas generator.
600+ mile range. I would have taken that all day, plus all the benefits you just mentioned.
AND give it the reverse option like the F-150 where the truck can be used as a generator.
If they did that, I don't think they could keep them on the lots.
Think about it, all the people that overland.
You have a vehicle with insane range and then you could extend it even more with some external gas cans attached to Molle Panels.
You would have a truck that could act as a generator to power your camping equipment.
AND then someone would create an after-market portable solar panel that would plug into the Jeep to charge the battery adding even more range.
With that setup you could go out for over a week and not need fuel or come back to civilization.
It would be an overlander's dream machine.

 

[berb]

Even the standard Ram 1500 is back with a v8.

Yeah, I do not understand that. Why bring back a bigger engine that produces less power and performance than the Hurricane Inline 6 engine that is in the Ram now. Why not retune the Hemi and make it more powerful. At this point I do not know why anyone would opt for the Hemi. AND before you say because it sounds awesome, which it does, you can add and exhaust system that would make the Hurricane sound insane.

 

[Alpine Warthog]

Yeah, I do not understand that. Why bring back a bigger engine that produces less power and performance than the Hurricane Inline 6 engine that is in the Ram now. Why not retune the Hemi and make it more powerful. At this point I do not know why anyone would opt for the Hemi. AND before you say because it sounds awesome, which it does, you can add and exhaust system that would make the Hurricane sound insane.

It would seem to me that the hurricane ($10,985) is much more expensive and complicated motor than the venerable 5.7 Hemi ($7,495) People are tired of insane vehicle prices and with the less complicated V-8 it's a perfect way to lower prices and give people back the V-8. No brainer decision in my mind. With the MPG requirements gone, why keep yourself at a pricing disadvantage?

 

[Dilly’S Willy]

Let's be honest, many wrangler owners with all the fancy extras that never a dirt/gravel bought it because...it's the poor mans G-Wagon. Kidding, or am I?

Okay seriously though. PHEV are the best for long range hybrids. EVs on the other hand rely on the grid, and thus remove true freedom from off-roading for example. If you're limited how far you can go before turning around, you can never leave, never explore, and never cause the same trouble those who don't have the restriction could.

It's been over a decade since EVs have been around, yet the grid still can't support the increase in EVs let alone the population increase, and those near 200k chargers (including private homes in the list, yeah go research THAT one) still aren't enough (4+ million EVs on the road in the US).

Call me old fashioned, EVs have a place but just not in rural america (or most of the world). Big cities, yeah sure, the suburbs maybe, but 70% of the USA is rural, and current EVs just don't work like that. PHEV however can bridge this gap, but with 4x4 PHEVs going away (Rav4/Volvo/Huyndai aren't 4x4), my theory about control from freedom with our vehicles is valid. Just look at what they did to race shops during that global blunder the last 5 years, "oh you stored a customer's vehicle with EPA violations...here's a 250k fine per violation per vehicle".

UNPOPULAR OPINION: Jeeps aren't for those who NEED a vehicle, like powersports, they're mostly novelty vehicles in the current era (sadly). This is why you saw them kill the manual (it's going to happen by 2030 for the wrangler too), and the PHEV, and why they have all the new nannies. No one who actually uses 4L even WANTS an EV as all that weight, combined with the nannies, makes for a SHIT off-road vehicle. That new Hummer can't do shit off-road, just like the EV Silverado/Sierra. From a GM EV truck review:

"This truck looks the part and is capable for camping, getting to motocross tracks, or general adventure trips. For extreme rock crawling or multi-day desert runs, she’d look for something even more specialized.

I agree. This truck excels at moderate off-roading with EV convenience. With its huge 205-kWh battery, it’s possible to drive 100 miles to a destination, power equipment or camp gear once there, and drive 100 miles back — all on a single charge."

200 miles total on a trip? Yeah, enjoy your shortened glamping trip on gravel roads while drinking your k-cup you made with the AC inverter in the bed.

Power storage needs change. Charging needs change. The Grid NEEDS CHANGE. Without those other changes, EVs will never surpass oil based engines. Obviously all that doesn't matter when they manufacture plans obsolescence with OTA updates and poor QC in manufacturing.

Anyone remember when Samsung/LG/Spotify bricked functioning devices because they were too old and losing sales on newer devices, aka not profitable? Remember "cash 4 clunkers" removing the affordable/reliable vehicles when the new vehicles (the "efficient" ones) weren't selling? Remember when they said "we're running out of oil" THREE TIMES OVER THREE DECADES?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Build schedule still has 4xE's on it, resuming in March.

 

[ChrisNLA]

Yeah, I do not understand that. Why bring back a bigger engine that produces less power and performance than the Hurricane Inline 6 engine that is in the Ram now. Why not retune the Hemi and make it more powerful. At this point I do not know why anyone would opt for the Hemi. AND before you say because it sounds awesome, which it does, you can add and exhaust system that would make the Hurricane sound insane.

The local Ram dealer started getting in Hemi trucks, and I'd run past a half mile of Hurricanes to buy a Hemi first.

Seriously. I've priced them as a potential Gladiator replacement.

I don't care that they are less powerful. I don't care that it may drink more gas. I just like the V8 - and that's why they came back. There is a corner of the market that'll buy it on that reasoning alone. That's fine.

Your second point is pretty subjective. I think the Hurricanes sound like shit, and the last thing I'd do is add a loud exhaust to it to make it worse.

Heck, I heard a 2.7L Turbomax Silverado get down the other day - and it sounded equally as bad.

3.6L Pentastars sound like hell too. that's why mine doesn't have exhaust

I'm not hating on turbo motors in general. I'd buy a second gen 2.7L Ecoboost as well - mostly because it's been out a while now and I know the long term impression of that engine. Well I also just like the truck that's wrapped around it. TBH I'd probably buy a Coyote over the 2.7L, but the jump to the 5.0 is steep in price.

I'm likely entirely biased. I've owned many V8 vehicles (and still own two).

 

[TheDerb]

Build schedule still has 4xE's on it, resuming in March.

The build schedule also had 4xe Gladiators on it when the union negotiations were going on in spring or summer of 2024.

Build schedule doesn't mean a whole lot.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The build schedule also had 4xe Gladiators on it when the union negotiations were going on in spring or summer of 2024.

Build schedule doesn't mean a whole lot.

All I said was they're on there.

I made no assertion about the significance of it

I never saw 4xe Gladiators on the build schedule though. I did see an SOP date on the plant schedule.

 

[Sweetums]

Glad they never made a Gladiator 4xe hybrid model....

January 8, 2025

All Jeep and Chrysler Plug-In Hybrid Models Are Officially Dead: Exclusive

This does not impact future range-extended electric models, the company told us.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/all-j...n-hybrid-models-are-officially-dead-exclusive

Just a few years ago, Jeep touted the Wrangler 4xe as the best-selling plug-in hybrid in America, and the herald of a new electrification strategy. Today it’s dead, along with every other plug-in model Stellantis sells in the United States.

You read that correctly: Jeep and Chrysler have officially discontinued production of their respective plug-in hybrid models. As of the end of the 2025 model year, the Jeep Wrangler 4xe, Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, and Chrysler Pacifica PHEV have all officially been discontinued—not paused or back-burnered. Just donezo.

“Stellantis continually evaluates its product strategy to meet evolving customer needs and regulatory requirements,” a Stellantis spokesperson told The Drive via email. “With customer demand shifting, Stellantis will phase out plug‑in hybrid (PHEV) programs in North America beginning with the 2026 model year, and focus on more competitive electrified solutions, including hybrid and range‑extended vehicles where they best meet customer needs.”

“This approach reinforces the company’s commitment to offering advanced propulsion systems that maximize efficiency and provide options from internal combustion to hybrid range‑extended, and fully electric solutions,” the spokesperson continued.

On a tip from a reader, The Drive reported Monday that the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee 4xes had both disappeared from their respective “Build and Price” tools on Jeep’s website. After our story was originally published, a Jeep spokesperson confirmed that an active stop-sale remained in place on all 4xe models due to ongoing recall campaigns, but stopped short of addressing their absence from the website itself. Now we know why they vanished.

This signals a firm pivot away from existing plug-in hybrid architectures across the company’s U.S. portfolio. Going forward, the company will focus its electrification efforts on range-extended EVs and conventional series hybrids. This means the range-extended Ram EV (and any unannounced products riding on the same architecture) remain in the pipeline.

In related news: Fire Extinguisher futures drop sharply

 

[D_JT]

4XE and other EV's where all political biased. When we bought our JL in 2019 the stupid 4 banger with e-torque was being pushed HARD on consumers. It for every one 3.6L on the lot there was 10 4 bangers. Then when the 4Xe came out. That's all dealers were selling because they got a kick back selling electric vehicles. Now that the EV/Hybrid tax credit is gone, EV/hybrids are falling off the charts, being scrapped by the manufacture or being reworked with a gas range extender.

 

[WILDHOBO]

4XE and other EV's where all political biased. When we bought our JL in 2019 the stupid 4 banger with e-torque was being pushed HARD on consumers. It for every one 3.6L on the lot there was 10 4 bangers. Then when the 4Xe came out. That's all dealers were selling because they got a kick back selling electric vehicles. Now that the EV/Hybrid tax credit is gone, EV/hybrids are falling off the charts, being scrapped by the manufacture or being reworked with a gas range extender.

Out come the conspiracy theories.

 

[Stan H]

I do know about the torque thing but I just don’t think I could trust one for an 8 hour trail day. Maybe it’s just me but I trust internal combustion more than a big ole high tech battery to get me home. I’m not against tech or solar or sustainable energy at all and I am heavily invested in it, but in this regard I’m not a fan.

Well and beyond that if tbd 4xe is that smooth over rocks etc..then it would make trail running no fun. I like challenging aspect of mastering the throttle etc...

 

[D_JT]

Out come the conspiracy theories.

What starts out as conspiracy theories at the beginning, end up being fact 90% of the time when its all said and done. I got my foil hat ready.

 

[WILDHOBO]

What starts out as conspiracy theories at the beginning, end up being fact 90% of the time when its all said and done. I got my foil hat ready.

Uh huh. And 95% of statistics are made up. 43% of those on Jeep forums.

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