5.7 Hemi install

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Hello Everyone. I am trying to decide between a Ram Cummins and Gladiator. I know, I know very different uses for each. One of the main reasons I am turned off by the gladiator is the turd of a V6 they offer. I know the diesel would be a good choice but I am wanting the Mojave and it doesn't have a diesel option. I would love to get one from the factory with a 5.7l hemi so I know that it is under warranty and it would have a transmission built for that kind of power.

Exodus charging basically $30k for hemi swap seems like highway robbery to me. You can get all of the parts for a 5.7l for roughly $15k... so paying them $15k for the install? Wow! Someone please tell me if I missing something?





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Hello Everyone. I am trying to decide between a Ram Cummins and Gladiator. I know, I know very different uses for each. One of the main reasons I am turned off by the gladiator is the turd of a V6 they offer. I know the diesel would be a good choice but I am wanting the Mojave and it doesn't have a diesel option. I would love to get one from the factory with a 5.7l hemi so I know that it is under warranty and it would have a transmission built for that kind of power.

Exodus charging basically $30k for hemi swap seems like highway robbery to me. You can get all of the parts for a 5.7l for roughly $15k... so paying them $15k for the install? Wow! Someone please tell me if I missing something?
I'm not @JTPatriot or @KurtP, or @Mopar King they know a ton more than I do, but are you including the suspension, brakes, and wheel and tire upgrades?

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The Power Wagon seems to be the answer to the question your asking, if you can live with its size
 
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Well not to be splitting hairs here but you will be closer to $20000 if not a bit more for a new engine with all the accessories and wiring harness plus the new truck transmission, new radiator, full stainless exhaust and any other items needed for the install from computers to windshield washer tanks. Plus with it being installed by an authorized installer you get a 3 year 36000 mile warranty on the engine, transmission and install.

I was in the same thinking that, dang that is a lot of money and yes it is. Then I got to thinking about the 6.0 LS and 6L80E transmission, both used that I installed with a DYI kit from RPM Extreme. Doing it myself, and all of the little parts you need plus getting an exhaust built plus buying HpTuners so I could tune it I was at about $16000 when done, that is after 5 weeks of crawling in, under and around the JK getting it done ( 1 week straight then evenings and weekends). Then I spent the next 5 years piddling and fighting with it to get all the little bugs and gremlins out of it. Which I finally did then I sold it to my son and got the Gladiator.

Since I was now in a position of being able to have someone else do the install and have any and all of the bugs worked out when I picked it up I did it and I have no regrets whats so ever. At times I think about the amount I spent, so I go out and drive it and just smile, hearing that V8 rumble and sitting me back in the seat makes it all better.

But to your original question JeepinFuture. Yes I wish they did put in a V8 from the factory, make it a lot more simple.
If I would be buying new again, with out even thinking about V8 conversions. I would go with the diesel. I understand they do not have them in the Mojave but what is in the Mojave that you do not want the Rubicon to get the diesel? Mainly seeing as how you are looking at at a Ram with a Cummins, so only fair to look at the diesel in the JT.

Another option is to buy a used Mojave if you can find one and then do a V8 swap! Then you would be getting the warranty for the motor and transmission and cash layout would not be significantly more than a band new JT.
 

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Well not to be splitting hairs here but you will be closer to $20000 if not a bit more for a new engine with all the accessories and wiring harness plus the new truck transmission, new radiator, full stainless exhaust and any other items needed for the install from computers to windshield washer tanks. Plus with it being installed by an authorized installer you get a 3 year 36000 mile warranty on the engine, transmission and install.

I was in the same thinking that, dang that is a lot of money and yes it is. Then I got to thinking about the 6.0 LS and 6L80E transmission, both used that I installed with a DYI kit from RPM Extreme. Doing it myself, and all of the little parts you need plus getting an exhaust built plus buying HpTuners so I could tune it I was at about $16000 when done, that is after 5 weeks of crawling in, under and around the JK getting it done ( 1 week straight then evenings and weekends). Then I spent the next 5 years piddling and fighting with it to get all the little bugs and gremlins out of it. Which I finally did then I sold it to my son and got the Gladiator.

Since I was now in a position of being able to have someone else do the install and have any and all of the bugs worked out when I picked it up I did it and I have no regrets whats so ever. At times I think about the amount I spent, so I go out and drive it and just smile, hearing that V8 rumble and sitting me back in the seat makes it all better.

But to your original question JeepinFuture. Yes I wish they did put in a V8 from the factory, make it a lot more simple.
If I would be buying new again, with out even thinking about V8 conversions. I would go with the diesel. I understand they do not have them in the Mojave but what is in the Mojave that you do not want the Rubicon to get the diesel? Mainly seeing as how you are looking at at a Ram with a Cummins, so only fair to look at the diesel in the JT.

Another option is to buy a used Mojave if you can find one and then do a V8 swap! Then you would be getting the warranty for the motor and transmission and cash layout would not be significantly more than a band new JT.
Great response. Thank you! Yes, that is true I did not think about the exhaust and all of the other items plus the feeling of having a pro do it with a warranty so it probably is a pretty fair deal.

I test drove both a mojave and rubicon and liked the ride better with the mojave. I would rarely use the goods the rubicon offers and a "high speed" rear locker is pretty neat in Mojave. Maybe I will try to find a diesel Rubi then just add some massive coil overs to get "same" ride as the mojave.

(I used to own a ram with cummins and test drove one same day as the mojave and it brought a smile back I hadn't had in a while with all the low end torque). Need to test a diesel Rubi next!

Either way the hemi swap is awesome, It would be nice if Jeep offered 5.7l from factory as it would not have to be a $30k adder but if its within your budget, more power to you. I'm jealous!
 

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Hello Everyone. I am trying to decide between a Ram Cummins and Gladiator. I know, I know very different uses for each. One of the main reasons I am turned off by the gladiator is the turd of a V6 they offer. I know the diesel would be a good choice but I am wanting the Mojave and it doesn't have a diesel option. I would love to get one from the factory with a 5.7l hemi so I know that it is under warranty and it would have a transmission built for that kind of power.

Exodus charging basically $30k for hemi swap seems like highway robbery to me. You can get all of the parts for a 5.7l for roughly $15k... so paying them $15k for the install? Wow! Someone please tell me if I missing something?
labor cost ist around 8K I think generally speaking for the swaps and starts with not only taking out the power train but welding in the engine mounts for the hemi which is beyond my skill set for sure. It is definitely a big job since basically everything that is in the engine bay and tied to transmission is swapped
 

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Hello Everyone. I am trying to decide between a Ram Cummins and Gladiator. I know, I know very different uses for each. One of the main reasons I am turned off by the gladiator is the turd of a V6 they offer. I know the diesel would be a good choice but I am wanting the Mojave and it doesn't have a diesel option. I would love to get one from the factory with a 5.7l hemi so I know that it is under warranty and it would have a transmission built for that kind of power.

Exodus charging basically $30k for hemi swap seems like highway robbery to me. You can get all of the parts for a 5.7l for roughly $15k... so paying them $15k for the install? Wow! Someone please tell me if I missing something?
If you go to the AMW website you will see what they offer with the hemi-swap packages. It is pretty much everything. Trans, radiator, you name it. On their site they seem to offer 6.4l and higher but if you call them, they do the 5.7l for ~$30K the last time I checked. Good luck. Seriously considering a 5.7l or 6.4l swap for my '20 JT LE.
 

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